How much clarity & confidence are you feeling in your spiritual pathway right now?
I provide coaching that helps clear the fog in your life and see the light already shining in you.
Are you considering leaving your religion & wondering how you'd live your life?
I provide coaching to help reconnect with your own inner guide for what's next in your life.
Have you left religion and perhaps feeling the challenge of creating your own path in life?
I provide coaching to discover your actual life values and build your own pathway in life.
Do you feel a longing to reconnect with yourself and experience a life of balance and wholeness?
I provide coaching to help people connect to their subtle energy and live a life of wholeness.
What do you do when the system you live or work in feels like it becomes a cage?
The Ziran Life Values is a meta journey designed for those who are ready for a sacred rebellion in their lives. After years, even decades of conformity to systems, norms, behaviors, policies, rules, regulations, and expectations, the most authentic version of us becomes suffocated. You might even feel like it's dying.
YOU have a ziran quality about your life... a most free, natural, spontaneous, uninhibited, and non-coerced essence within your existence as a human being. Almost everywhere you turn in your life, systems have created an environments that coerce you into believing and behaving so you can experience 'belonging.'
Sometimes those environments are religious. Sometimes they are military. Sometimes they are soaked in heteronormativity, gender norms, cultural supremacy, or patriarchy. Sometimes… all of the above. Regardless, they don't want the most free and natural version of you. They want and need a cooperative version of you... almost always at the expense of you.
Are you ready for a sacred rebellion that returns your heart to the ziran you? Click here to learn more.
My life experiences and training include...
10 Years
rebuilding after exiting institutional religion
8 Years
serving as a U.S. Army Chaplain in five countries
18 Years
in institutional religious ministry leadership
35 Years
practicing solution-focused counseling
20 Years
consulting in business operations & service delivery
72+ Years
combined experience raising four children into adulthood!
For over 23 years, I served as a Christian minister, pouring my heart into the work, trying to guide others through their struggles, while silently battling my own. But after years of questioning, of trying to reconcile the pain in my life with the teachings I preached, I couldn’t ignore the inner conflict any longer. I felt like I was losing myself, and my faith was no longer a source of comfort—it was a weight. I had to step away from a career that had defined me for over two decades.
Leaving was one of the scariest things I’ve ever done. I didn't know who I was without that title, or what I was supposed to do next. Everything felt uncertain. Then I met Rob. Three months later, I can honestly say I've found a peace I didn’t know was possible. It’s not about having all the answers—Lord knows I don’t—but through coaching with Rob, I’ve started to realize that the answers were always inside of me. It’s a process of peeling back the layers and rediscovering parts of myself I forgot existed.
I don’t feel as lost anymore. I don’t feel as afraid of the future. I’ve learned I’m a lot more capable, smarter, and stronger than I gave myself credit for. So, if you’re a former minister or someone struggling with your own faith journey, I can't recommend Rob enough. He’s helped me find hope in places I didn’t even know to look. You’re not alone in this—trust me on that.
Thadeus
Pacheco, CA
As a full-time small business owner, I was already juggling a million things, but when I was diagnosed with ongoing physical health challenges, it felt like my body was betraying me. Between managing my business, taking care of my family, and dealing with the depression that came with it all, I felt like I was sinking. I didn’t know how to balance it all, and I couldn’t shake the feeling that I was failing as a mom, a spouse, and a business owner. My partner and kids were trying to help, but they didn’t know what to do, and honestly, neither did I.
Then I met Rob. What started as a brief conversation turned into a coaching relationship that completely changed my perspective. By our second session, I was reconnecting my mind to my body in a way I hadn’t been able to before. Week by week, I started feeling stronger and more in control—of my body, my health, and even my business. I realized that I wasn’t fighting my body anymore; it was finally on my team.
Thank you, Rob, for helping me see that the answers were always inside of me. I feel like I’ve reclaimed my life—and my business—again.
Nora
Albany, GA
Imagine spending your whole life believing something you were absolutely certain about—something you’d bet your life on. And then, after you retire, life hits you like a freight train, shattering that belief and everything starts to unravel—your marriage, your job, your sense of purpose. Suddenly, it felt like I was losing everything, and I honestly thought I might end up homeless. I got so lost, I couldn’t trust anyone, not even myself.
If any of this rings true for you, let me tell you about Rob. At first, I didn’t know what to expect, but all he did was ask me questions—simple questions that made me wrestle with my own thoughts. Slowly but surely, he helped me find my way back. I’ve started to feel some inner peace again, something I thought I’d lost for good.
Retirement was supposed to be my time to relax, but I ended up facing a lot more than I expected. Rob didn’t give me the answers, but he helped me find them within myself. If you’re feeling like I was—lost and uncertain—I highly recommend reaching out to him. He helped me rediscover my footing, and now I’ve got a little more peace in my life.
Albert
Flagstaff, AZ
I grew up in Salt Lake City, surrounded by the teachings and community of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I loved my church, my leaders, and the people who shaped my faith. But as I got older, the stories I once embraced didn’t resonate with me anymore. They didn’t feel true to what was inside me. The more questions I asked, the more isolated I became—my church family didn’t know how to respond, and I didn’t know where to turn. Eventually, that loneliness overwhelmed me, and I felt completely helpless in my search for answers and peace.
Then I met Rob through a mutual friend. The last six months have been life-changing. Rob's coaching has helped me reclaim my sanity, find clarity, and even make new, supportive friends. What I’ve learned has allowed me to transition into a spirituality that feels authentic to me—even though I don’t have all the answers yet.
For the first time in a long while, I’m at peace with my journey. If you’re struggling to find your place or peace in your own faith, I highly recommend working with Rob. He’s helped me reconnect with myself in ways I didn’t know were possible.
Lydia
Salt Lake City, UT
